Here is the old version of AI xrisk. In most cases I trust version control to keep track of old files and actually expect revisions of files to be strict improvements, so I never dig through version history to find old files.
Iâm keeping this one up because Iâm interested in the trajectory of my thoughts about this, so could be interested in comparing the two posts. Also maybe by seeing where I refined my ideas I can update even closer to being correct.
In this post I try to give a concise explanation of why I believe the following things are more likely than not:
- Claim 1 People will try (very hard) to create highly capable AI agents.
- Claim 2 Highly capable AI agents will be created and widely deployed soon (before 2040).
- Claim 3 Highly capable AI agents could, if it wanted to, kill or disempower all humans.
- Claim 4 Highly capable AI agents would have incentives to kill or disempower all humans.
- Claim 5 Highly capable AI agents would be likely to kill or disempower all humans.
There are definitely things, even âeasyâ things, that humanity could do to reduce xrisk posed by AI. But itâs going to be tricky and does not happen by default. One goal of this post is to make you an informed citizen who is amenable to acting to mitigate this risk. Iâll discuss this more at the end.
These are some pretty bold claims! I think itâs pretty reasonable to have a strong prior against any argument with such a startling conclusion. But, I think that this argument does actually merit consideration. I strongly hope that youâll read this post with an open mind, and weigh the arguments yourself, rather than taking the easy route â relinquishing responsibility for forming an opinion about this to the population at large, or the government, or anyone but yourself.
Before arguing for these claims, let me comment on what I mean by âHighly capable AI agentsâ.
- I donât require the AI agents to be good at everything that humans are good at. It seems possible to have agents that are highly capable in some areas, while subhuman in other areas, but I donât think dominance across all domains is required for an agent to be scary.
- But here are some examples of what âhighly capable agentsâ could entail:
- Superhuman coding / math abilities.
- Superhuman protein modeling abilities.
- Superhuman communication abilities / psychology abilities / understanding humans abilities.
- Ability to control lots of things, like factories, self-driving cars, military tools.
- If you want a formal definition of âhighly capable AI agentâ, I guess you can say âan agent that can do the same work as a human software engineerâ. Or âagents that can replace 50% of the workforceâ.
Iâll abbreviate âHighly capable AI agentsâ to HCAI throughout this post. This is not a standard term, but Iâd rather not have the baggage of terms like AGI/ASI/TAI in this post.
Some miscellaneous notes before presenting the argument:
- In this post, Iâm not talking about dangers from misuse of AI. Misuse dangers are real as well, but are outside of the scope of this post.
- None of the ideas in this post are original â I have formed my opinions about the matter largely by reading Alignment Forum (see, e.g., the links at the bottom of this post).
- If you buy the arguments here, then I think the appropriate reaction is not to despair, but to act to improve humanityâs chances at a good future. Iâll discuss this at the end.
The Argument
Now I present the arguments that cause my to believe the 5 claims from the beginning of the post.
Claim 1 People will try (very hard) to create highly capable AI agents.
Reasoning
First, suppose there are no âsmallâ AI catastrophes that scare people.
One major factor that will drive the development of HCAI is that there is a ton of money to be made from AI. Companies/countries understand this and are investing huge amounts in AI. As an example of how much value could come from AI systems, imagine they could replace a large amount of the work-force (e.g., software engineers), or that they could make huge contributions to e.g., medicine.
But, this is not the only relevant factor driving growth. Some people are excited about building AGI because they think itâs a really cool problem. Some people have a vision of a post-AGI utopia that they are excited about.
A âsmall disasterâ might not be sufficient to stop people trying to develop HCAI.
Itâs possible that the risks of AI donât become widely accepted until humanity has permanently been maneuvered off of the steering wheel of the future, but I donât think this will necessarily be the case. I think itâs possible that people start to realize that AI systems weâre building are dangerous, but still continue building them anyways. The main factor that would drive this is ârace dynamicsâ / fear of being left behind. If your organization are the âgood guysâ and youâre pretty sure that someone is going to develop HCAI, then itâs better if itâs you who develops it.
Also, things like humanityâs response to COVID might make you pessimistic about humanity coordinating to stop AI development. Also, regulation is generally reactive rather than proactive. But of course, you canât react after a sufficiently large disaster.
Another reason why itâd be really hard to stop AI dev, even if people had reservations, is that as we become reliant on powerful AI systems, itâs harder to abandon them. For instance, imagine a policy of âeveryone needs to get rid of their phones and computersâ. This is just unthinkable to most people at this point. I think we might already be at this point with tools like ChatGPT.
There are reasons to suspect that there will not be large âsmall (misalignment) disastersâ
If an agent is smart enough to cause a disaster, then it is probably also smart enough to realize that it would be smarter to wait until it has a decisive advantage before initiating a âtakeoverâ attempt. This issue is exacerbated by the fact that there will be tiny disasters, and then the agent will get feedback telling it not to make these disasters. And from this the agent could either learn not to create disasters, or to only create disasters large enough so that humans canât penalize it afterwords. You might hope that the AI generalizes and learns the first rule (which might seem like a simpler rule). Weâll discuss this more during the discussion of claim 5.
In summary, there are a lot of clear signals that push for the development of AI, and the signals of the dangers are more nebulous, and might only come after the situation has already spiraled out of control.
Claim 2 Highly capable AI agents will be created and widely deployed soon (before 2040).
Reasoning
The first ingredient in my reasoning for Claim 2 is Claim 1. However, the fact that people want to create HCAI isnât a sufficient condition for it happening. Conditional on people throwing lots of money at AI development, the things that you might hope would prevent HCAI from happening could include:
- The capabilities of AI systems halts at some level below âHCAIâ. Possibly because of large energy requirements, data scarcity, or inability to scale up GPU production.
- There are some analyses where people have thought about this and conclude that we have enough room to increase training compute by 10,000x in the next 6 years.
- If I understand correctly, scaling laws predict that GPT2030:GPT4 is a similar comparison to GPT4:GPT2. The gap between GPT2/GPT4 is huge, so if GPT4/GPT2030 is a similar gap, then GPT2030 probably will quality as HCAI.
- One other thing that you might think could prevent the development of HCAI is that itâs just too hard / itâs impossible. Humans are special and machines canât be intelligent.
- But I donât think this is accurate.
- First, the brain is just a machine, and it was optimized by evolution, which is in some sense a similar algorithm to how we train artificial agents.
- Current artificial models are on pretty similar scales to brains
- By which I mean, number of axons in a brain is only a few OOM larger than number of parameters in GPT4.
- Is this a fair comparison? Iâm not sure.
- Honestly Iâd lean towards saying that computer neurons are better, because biology is messy and inefficient.
- Some people say that machines will cap out at human level. But I donât see why this should be the case. We already have tons of examples of computers being superhuman in specific domains.
- e.g., chess, standardized tests
- There are tons of tasks where you can generate feedback loops that create agents much stronger than humans.
- For instance, getting computers really good at math seems possible, because you can check when a theorem is true or false easily.
- I think OpenAIâs approach to doing this is âdo reinforcement learning on chain-of-thought to check for consistency / refine strategies / break down problemsâ.
Another factor that should be kept in mind here is that developments in AI have potential to vastly speed up further developments in AI. This doesnât need to be at the level of AI doing AI R&D (although that would certainly make things go very fast). Tools like copilot already probably make coders about 2x more efficient according to some experiment done by copilot.
Claim 3 Highly capable AI agents could, if it wanted to, kill / disempower humans.
Reasoning
Before considering whether HCAI agents would kill/disempower humans, letâs think about whether they could if, e.g., someone gave them this as a goal. Obviously someone giving a HCAI agent such a goal counts as misuse, not as the HCAI agents independently posing a risk without bad actors â but weâll get to in claim 4 why you might not need to have people explicitly give HCAI such a goal in order for the agent to pursue this goal.
Q: What are some really dangerous things that AI could do? A:
- AlphaFold5 is given a lab and is researching e.g., how to cure cancer. AlphaFold5 figures out how to make a synthetic virus similar to COVID19 but much worse. It manufactures this and releases it.
- Various countries put AI agents in charge of their military â maybe not because they actually thought that this was a good idea, but because they worried that if they didnât then other countries would, obsoleting their military.
- An AI can buys its own data-center, replicates onto that data-center, and then does R&D to improve itself. Then, after becoming extremely intelligent, it comes up with some strategy that weâd never think of for doing something dangerous.
- An AI uses persuasion, or makes a bunch of money online and then uses money, to get humans to do dangerous things.
Note that these arenât super far-fetched applications of AI. AI is already widely used in drug design, we are increasingly going to give agents the ability to act autonomously, to write and execute code, to give us news and help us make decisions.
I think the âdisempowerâ case is also worth thinking about. One way this could play out is that we become highly reliant on AI systems, the world changes rapidly and becomes extremely complicated, so that we donât have any real hopes of understanding it anymore. Maybe we end up only being able to interface with the world through AIâs and thereby lose our agency.
Claim 4 Highly capable AI agents would have incentives to kill / disempower humans.
AI agents are ultimately optimizing some reward signal. Suppose that what GPT-7 ultimately cares about is some number in some data-center representing its reward. Then, itâd be optimal for GPT-7 to take over that data-center and write
Lemma 1: The âOrthogonality Thesisâ (due to Nick Bostrom )
Basically any level of intelligence can be paired with basically any objective function.
In other words, being super intelligent is orthogonal from being super moral.
Argument: âIntelligence levelâ probably is more accurately described as âlevel of capabilityâ or âlevel of skill at getting what you want (normalized by how hard it is to get what you want)â.
An agent is just some entity that has a space of possible actions, and a utility function over possible world states. The ability to evaluate larger action spaces, and make more powerful causal inferences makes an agent more able to get what it wants, but doesnât change what it wants.
Lemma 2 âInstrumental convergenceâ (Bostrom) power seeking and resource acquisition are good subgoals for achieving most goals.
Argument
- Power and resources help you achieve your objectives.
- This seems pretty clear: to the extent to which you are not in control there is risk that something external causes you to be unable to achieve your goal.
- As a classic example, if you are shutdown then you probably canât achieve your goal! (unless your goal was to shutdown).
Claim 5 Highly capable AI agents would be likely to kill / disempower humans.
- In Claims 3 and 4 we have established that HCAI agents will be capable and incentivized to kill / disempower humans.
- So the remaining question is, âare the optimization pressures that we apply to agents strong enough to find an action like this?â
- I think the answer is yes because some of these takeover plans donât seem super complicated.
- Also, if the agents arenât acting optimally according to their reward function yet, then this means that weâll just optimize them harder.
I donât think that the problem is fundamentally impossible. All Iâm saying is that we currently donât know how to solve it.
OK, well, what to do about it? I suggest researching the issue to form an opinion yourself, and then if youâre convinced, trying to spread awareness of the problem. To some extent discussion of xrisk posed by HCAI is currently taboo. The majority of people dismiss the risks as âsci-fiâ. Some AI researchers are offended by people claiming that AI poses an xrisk, and say that talking about xrisk posed by AI distracts us from more important or realistic things. This is all to say that talking to people about xrisk posed by AI is not easy, there is a lot of work to do, and you will encounter some resistance if you do this.
If you have are in any kind of political position / in a position where you can inform policy makers, then instituting an indefinite ban on training runs larger than
If you have some technical skills, then you could consider using your career to work on technical alignment problems. If youâre interested in this, Iâd be happy to talk to you about how to go about doing this â find my contact info here: awestover.github.io.
Confronting this issue seriously can be quite distressing. I think talking about it can help, and am very willing to discuss this with you, especially if you disagree with my conclusions. Iâll put some initial thoughts on how this should impact the way I live my life here: 5 years.
further reading
- PauseAI statement on risks This resource is very good! They have a very detailed taxonomy of risks posed.
- Sam Altmanâs Blog post about why AGI is an xrisk
- Yoshua Bengio responses to arguments against taking AI xrisk seriously
- Paul Christiano â possible alignment failure story
- Max Tegmark on why people donât take xrisk seriously
- Eliezer Yudkowsky thoughts on alignment difficulty
- Deepmind thoughts on alignment difficulty